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Post by johnnyw on Jun 4, 2008 22:26:12 GMT -5
As alleady all you guys know that there are few gamepad players in OF1L wich are allowed to use ABS to full atm. I allready stated before season even started that with ABS on you will gain a lot in braking wich is clearly proved to be right. so i think that rule need some changing that some guys cant get huge unfair advantage about it. for Example fast tracks like montreal with abs you gain so much because you can get so much baking power with just using very front balanced brake bias and full brake pressure,wich cause you to win half a sec in every hard braking compared to wheel guys, because they just cant use same (unrealistic ) values without locking brakes. Also you can use lower wings with abs, because you dont need wings to stabilise car while braking.
Im not saying that abs should be taked off, i just say that high abs should not be allowed anymore to stop some guys using those unreal values what give so much advantage to them.
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Post by johnnyw on Jun 4, 2008 22:27:47 GMT -5
OF1L members pls place your toughts about this issue here.
Thanks: Joni varis
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Post by Jose Caparroso on Jun 4, 2008 23:17:11 GMT -5
well i use abs on.. and you can see im not top driver.. so...
I think just me and Simon Bishop are using ABS on ask him if he is using it.
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Post by Art Gear on Jun 4, 2008 23:41:03 GMT -5
i think it would be more fair if the gamepad users are allowed to use low abs setting.
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Post by elmertje on Jun 5, 2008 7:06:48 GMT -5
yes, abs on low is more fair in my opinion to.
wheel drivers with abs off, can not put brake bias more to the front than like 58.0 - 42.0, because with a bias more to front your front tires will lock immediatly. Gamepad people do not have that problem and can drive with bias 64.0 tot 36.0 or something, which make them lot faster because they can brake later and can use lower wings (no stability problems during braking)
if you put it on low, with normal brake bias (so max 58.0 - 42.0) it is still drivable for gamepad players, however if they put it more to front like 60.0 - 40.0 it is undrivable, which is same thing we have whit abs off. In my opinion such a bias may not be possible to use because it make u lot faster. Also in monaco i noticed gamepad users can brake so late that it sometimes can cause damage to my rear:S, than after the incendent i hear 'you broke very early'.......
So on low in would not lock quickly, IF u use a normal brake bias, which for gamepad users is still good drivable.
So my coclusion: its same hard for gamepad drivers to have abs on low as for wheel drivers to have it off.
I dont want it on low to make it more hard to drive for gamepad users, it is just to force them to use 'normal' brake bias like the rest of the grid do
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Post by tuomaala on Jun 5, 2008 9:30:55 GMT -5
I have to quote this excellent sentance by Elmer.
"I dont want it on low to make it more hard to drive for gamepad users, it is just to force them to use 'normal' brake bias like the rest of the grid do"
This is exactly what I'm thinking and what I want. As Elmer said, now they're able to use very crazy brake bias, like 70-30, while we're on 57-43 or something. It's not fair. It also causes accidents, because Jose and Simon can brake very late compared to wheel+pedals players. Especially in first laps, as we saw in Monaco when Jose hit Simo. I can't really blame Jose about it, because that was the place where he usually brakes. But players with pedals are unable to brake that late with cold, easily locking brakes and tires.
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