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Post by ashoct on Oct 15, 2007 6:12:02 GMT -5
Hi,
My problem is that I see the people hotlaping in youtube with FSONE and they brake like 50 to 100 meters after I do for example in Monza... I don't really know where's the problem.
I lose all time in the braking thing, I feel OK in turns, but brakes are giving me headache.
I beg for help, i've tried everything.
Thanks, I will be pleased with your answers.
PS: I'm using v1.3, I find it more "drivable" and enjoying.
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Post by arhopkins3 on Oct 17, 2007 16:59:15 GMT -5
Possibly your downforce? If you have very low downforce, you'll need to brake earlier to slow down in time.
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Post by ashoct on Oct 18, 2007 14:05:28 GMT -5
Hi arhopkins3,
First of all, thank you very much for your reply.
Sure downforce is a key point, but in tracks with very long straights you should keep downforce in the low side in order to be competitive.
Let's take Monza as example.
People in youtube is achieving a top speed around 330km/h, and you need a wing setup like 15/12 (front/rear) to get that much of speed. If I use those wings, then I'm forced to push brakes like 200+ m before the corner, while they brake 120m from it... so I really have a problem to stop the car, it makes no sense.
Well, maybe some of these guys just cheat on engine hp, so if anyone who likes to run Monza could help me a little and give me a hint... or maybe sombody who solved the same problem in any other circuit.
Thank you again arhopkins3 for your post. I'll be glad if you have any other comment or thought.
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Post by Dan on Oct 18, 2007 14:21:47 GMT -5
Are the people on youtube using 1.52 or 1.3, that could be a problem
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Post by stigissimo on Oct 18, 2007 14:45:42 GMT -5
intresting topic!
I know one trick is to give a little bit of thittle while braking. I don't know exactly how.....
Maybe someone else knows how...
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Post by domo15 on Oct 18, 2007 15:41:06 GMT -5
mm no its not cheating so i brake with 346km/h at 140 m before the corner let me think i give you some things what it can be: - the brake bias i use 55.0:45.0 - brake pressure must be on 90-100%( you can choice between that) - or the brake duct size too high i have it in qualy on 1 and race at 5
that are the things when i think its wrong or but i dont think thats it but your brake pedal dont work 100%
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Post by Phil Sousa on Oct 18, 2007 16:51:54 GMT -5
well domo we use v1.6 private. Maybe thats why too. Lets not forget that.
Phil
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Post by domo15 on Oct 19, 2007 1:05:16 GMT -5
yeah ok its 1.6, But in 1.52 i had the brake things at the same as 1.6 and i had no problem with braking.
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Post by ashoct on Oct 19, 2007 4:41:52 GMT -5
Hi all, I didin't expect so many posts!! Thank you all. Ok, step by step. DanI'm sorry but I don't really know wich version they use, but it is hard to believe in such a huge difference between v1.3 v1.52... I'll try to find out about it. stigissimoI think you meant "throttle". If i'm not wrong that's called heel-toe maneuver, and I need pedals for that, i'm using an analog pad. But thank you for the tip. domo15I'm really glad you read this. - I have default brake bias (56:44), but i've tried from 58:42 till 50:50 and I find little differences (very little differences), some a bit more stable, some a bit more effective. - I've tried brake pressure between 96-100%. More than 98% make me release brakes very soon (even at 3rd gear) to avoid losing rear and spinning. - Brake duct is at 5, but i've tried 4 to 7. - I don't think it is brake pedal since i don't have any lol I'm using analog pad I'm suspecting on too hard suspension, because I don't really know how to adjust bump and rebound, I do with springs but not with bump and rebound and I leave defaults. PhilMaybe I should try v1.52, but people talks a lot about how hard it is to drive, even more with pad.
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Post by ashoct on Nov 14, 2007 9:00:44 GMT -5
Hi,
everything is solved with v1.7
Well, about breaking, it turns out that I had Stability control set on high to avoid spinnig, and that turn automatically ABS on high too, then breaking length increased a lot.
With v1.7 i got a lot more stability in braking, so I don't need stability control any more. Now I'm driving only with TC on low and ABS on low (also auto-clutch) and everything else off... and I am hell away faster (about 2 secs with a bad setup).
Now, when I get used to the new breaking feeling and I don't lock wheels, I think breaking length will be as it should in real life (a little bit longer, but hey, no complaints here).
I would like to thank you very much for v1.7 release... it's simply the best, the more drivable, the most enjoyable.
Also, I'd like to point a few things I liked very much of v1.7:
1) In previous releases when you were stopped, turned wheels right away and push gas nothing happend (whit TC in all settings but low)... now, the car accelerates and slides even with TC on... now I can drive and leave corners sliding whenever I want with control, I think that is much more real.
2) With v1.7 I fell the car rebounds and grip losing much more than in any other version, it's just amazing, it will make setuping the car far easier and accurate.
3) I can drive the car without any aid at all, just paying a lot of attention in a smooth driving being just 1 sec slower... in fact, driving without aids is not painfull at all as before.
Certainly I'm not a pro, but I'm not a newbie either, and from my point of view this version is really a very good point to start development of physics for the FSONE 07-08
Thank you guys for all your work, it led to best F1 simulator ever.
Just thanks.
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Post by penzman on Dec 5, 2007 13:36:19 GMT -5
No one mentioned Engine Brake Map? Just below radiator and rpm settings. 0 to 8. I believe the higher the number, the more the engine helps braking.
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Post by zeppelin101 on Dec 5, 2007 20:51:03 GMT -5
It's the opposite for some reason, if you have "0" mapped then there is a good chance the car will swap ends under braking if you haven't set your car up to deal with the slightly quicker drop in speed when you shift down.
It doesn't make that much difference in an F1 car as far as I can tell because the shift is so quick, but in something like a V8 supercar (if it was an editable value) the longer downshift time would mean you lose a lot of speed shifting down without blipping and most likely spin the car out.
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